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Thomasine "Tamazine" FROST b. Before 08/11/1600 d. 06/13/16541

Thomasine "Tamazine" FROST b. Before 08/11/1600 d. 06/13/16541 - Pedigree

Edward FROST2
1561-1616
Glemsford, Suffolk, England
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John FROST
1540-1609
John BELGRAVE
1535-1591
Thomasine BELGRAVE3
1560-1653
Leverington, Fenland District, Cambridgeshire, England
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Joanna STRUTT
1541-1577
Ann SCOTT
1538-1588
Thomasine "Tamazine" FROST1
1600-1654
St James, Stanstead, Suffolk, England
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1. {{Puritan Great Migration}} [[Category: Immigrants to Massachusetts Bay Colony from England]] [[Category:Stanstead, Suffolk]] [[Category:Berkhamsted, Hertfordshire]] [[Category:Sudbury, Massachusetts]] == Biography == '''Thomasine (aka Tamazine) Frost''' was baptized 11 August 1600 at Saint James Church, Stanstead, England, daughter of Edward Frost and Tamazine Belgrave.<ref name="era">The Edmund Rice (1638) Association, [http://www.edmund-rice.org/era5gens/p13.htm#i110 p. 13], gives four secondary sources for the birth and baptism of Thomasine Frost: 1. A Genealogical Register of Edmund Rice Descendants. Rutland, VT: The CharlesE. Tuttle Company, 1970. 2. Porter, Harold F.. "The Paternal Ancestryof Thomasine Frost, Wife of Deacon Edmund Rice of Sudbury, Mass.", The American Genealogist 63, No. 3 (July 1988). 3. Holman, Mary Lovering. "English Notes on Edmund Rice", The American Genealogist 10 (1933-34). 4. Porter, Harold F. "The Strutt Ancestry of Thomasine Frost Wife of Edmund Rice of Sudbury, Mass.", The American Genealogist 61, No. 3 (January/April 1986).</ref><ref>Sudbury Biographies from Hudson's History of Sudbury, 1889</ref><ref name="era"/><ref>Descendants of Thomas Farr of Harpswell, Maine and ninety allied families, Ancestry.com, Online publication - Provo, UT: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004. Original data - Sumner, Edith Bartlett.. Descendants of Thomas Farr of Harpswell, Maine and ninety allied families. Los Angeles, Calif.: Lithographed from compiler's typescript by American, Includes bibliographical references and index.</ref> She married Deacon Edmund Rice on 15 October 1618 at St Mary's Church, Bury St. Edmunds, England. As late as 1627, they resided in 1627 at Berkhamstead, England.<ref>Rice Gen'l Register, p. 1.</ref><ref>HaroldF. Jr Potter, "The Paternal Ancestry of Thomasine Frost", p. 134.</ref><ref>Harold F. Jr Porter, "The Strutt Ancestry of Thomasine Frost", pp. 165-166.</ref><ref>Mary Lovering Holman, "Notes on Edmund Rice", in ''The American Genealogist,'' vol 10, pp. 134-135.</ref><ref>Andrew Henshaw A.M. Ward, ''The Rice Family''.</ref><ref>"Sudbury, MA Vital Records, ," in ''New England Historic Genealogical Society'', vol #? (date) p. 323.</ref> Likely of Puritan faith, being among those who fled religious persecution in England. They settled in Sudbury, Massachusetts. She died there on 13 June 1654.<ref name="era"/> where she was buried June 18, 1654.<ref>Sudbury Biographies from ''Hudson's History of Sudbury,'' 1889</ref> == Children ==Thomasine gave birth to the following children:<ref name="era"/> (We should replace the ERA references with references to more original sources where available.)</ref> # [[Rice-173|Mary Rice]], born August 23, 1619.# [[Rice-53|Henry R. Rice]], born February 13, 1619–20, died February 10, 1709–-10, married [[Moore-175|Elizabeth Moore]] February 1, 1641–42.# [[Rice-40|Edward Rice]], born October 20, 1622, died August 15, 1712, married (1) Anna, (2) Agnes Bent 1646.# [[Rice-54|Thomas Rice]], born January 26, 1625–6, died November 16, 1681, married Mary King 1652.# [[Rice-55|Lydia Rice]], born March 9, 1626–27, died April 5, 1675, married [[Drury-6|Hugh Drury]] 1645.# [[Rice-56|Matthew Rice]], born February 28, 1627–28, died 1717, married [[Lamson-1|Martha Lamson]] November 2, 1654. # [[Rice-174|Daniel Rice]], stillborn.# [[Rice-57|Samuel Rice]], born November 12, 1634, died February 25, 1683–84, married (1) Elizabeth King, (2) Mary Dix September 1668, (3) Sarah White December 13, 1676.# [[Rice-58|Joseph Rice]], born March 13, 1636–37, died December 23, 1711, married (1) Sarah Prescott, (2) Mary Beers, (3) Mercy King.# [[Rice-60|Benjamin Rice]], born May 31, 1640, died December 19, 1713, married (1) Mary Chamberlain, (2) Mary Browne. :'''Note:''' Despite the presence of such in many locations (including here on WikiTree), the 1983 Edmund Rice (1638) Association publication "Supplement 2 part 1" says there is no proof that a son Edmund everexisted. An April 1714 Middlesex Co probate [citation?] gave the illusion of such a child, but subsequent research revealed this 1714 probate action was for son EDWARD. Somehow this probate involved the estateof the old man Edmund Rice Senior because essentially every one one his offspring had a descendant represented in that probate (see the Ward ca1857 Rice book, the very same book that created the false illusionof a son Edmund). The Edmund Rice (1638) Association estimates that after 13 or 14 generations, descendants of Edmund Rice may be in the many hundreds of thousands to millions. == Sources == <references /> See also: (remove those that are already referenced in footnotes) * Attached Documents.* [http://www.gulbangi.com/genrpts/desctwheeler.pdf Descendants of Thomas Wheeler (9422)] * ''History of the Town of Marborough,'' Pages 240-247 * ''The American Genealogist,'' 65 (1990): page #s? * Research of [[Adamson-409|J. C. Adamson]].* [http://sudbury.ma.us/archives/history/index.htm Sudbury Biographies from Hudson's History of Sudbury], 1889.* [http://family.gradeless.com/wheeler.htm The Wheeler Family of Clermont County Ohio and Lincoln, Middlesex, Norfolk, & Worcester Counties Massachusetts Descendants of Richard Wheeler of Dedham], online and sourced descendancy report.* <span id='Bennett'></span>Bennett, Archibald. ''Ancestry of The Wife of Edmund Rice'', [[Space:TAG|The American Genealogist]] (1950) Vol.26, Page 10. == Images ==<!-- I removed broken links and those requiring log-in to view or those that appear to be violating copyright. ~~~~ -->* [http://photos.geni.com/p13/3b/43/2d/ce/53444838f06caee1/270px-edmundricehome1643_large.jpg Edmund Rice Homestead]* [http://photos.geni.com/p13/6f/41/3d/48/53444838f10103b9/immigrated1_large.jpg Drawing of a ship from the time period]* [http://photos.geni.com/p2/5605/5444/53444835f8c7ebe5/det36ven_large.jpg Immigrant logo from geni.com] (what is the value of retaining this here?)
2. [[Category: St James Churchyard, Nayland, Suffolk]] {{Puritan Great Migration Adjunct}}:''Due to controversies about his origins and relationships, and thathe is father of multiple Great Migration-era immigrants, his profile is being tracked and protected by the Puritan Great Migration project.'' == Biography ==Edward Frost<ref name="Hunt">Hunt, Bessie B., "Ancestors & Descendants of Jonathan Burris" Sun Printing</ref> '''Edward Frost''':'''Baptized:''' 13 March 1560/61 at Glemsford, Suffolk, England<ref name="Thre">Threlfall, John B., ''Fifty Great Migration Colonists of New England and Their Origins'', Madison, Wisconsin: Privately Printed,1990 (reprinted at Bowie, Maryland: Heritage Books, 1992).</ref>:'''Married:''' 1585 at Glemsford, to Thomasine Belgrave<ref name="Thre"/> :'''Occupation:''' clothier<ref name="Thre"/>:'''Residence:''' removed c. 1588-9 to Stanstead (the next town to the northeast)<ref name="Thre"/>:'''Buried:''' 3 August 1616 at Stanstead (wife surviving him)<ref name="Thre"/> May be buried at St. James Church, Standstead.<ref>[http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=116093760 Find-a-Grave entry for Edward Frost], no citations provided; use with caution.</ref> === Origin ===Edward was baptized 13 Mar 1560, Glemsford, England<ref name="Hol">Holman, Mary L., "English Notes on Edmund Rice" in ''The American Genealogist,'' volume 10, pp 134-35 [https://www.americanancestors.org/DB283/i/11841/135/23568281 Link at AmericanAncestors ($)]</ref> He was a son of [[Frost-62|John Frost]] and [[Scott-243|Ann Scott]].{{Citation Needed}} === Family ===Edward married on 26 September 1585 [or on 26 July 1585, on p. 91] atGlemsford, Suffolk, England to Thomasine Belgrave, daughter of John and Joanna (Strutt) Belgrave. She was baptized 1 February 1561/2 at Leverington in Cambridgeshire.<ref name="Thre"/> Children (after about 1588-9, children baptized at Stanstead)<ref name="Hol"/>:# Anne (Died as Infant) (bp. 28 Nov 1586-bur. 27 Dec 1586) in Glemsford# Elizabeth (bp. 24 Mar 1587/8 Glemstead) m. Henry Rice, Stanstead, in Nov 1605; apparently m. (2) St. Mary's Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, 24Jan 1621/2 Philemon Whale # William (bp. 3 Aug 1589-) # Ann (bp. 3 Dec 1592-), m Laurence Collen # Alice (bp. 1 Dec 1594-), m Thomas Blower # Mary (bp. 21 Sep 1596- bur. 23 Nov 1596)# Thomasine (bp. 11 Aug 1600-1654), may have married the Immigrant Edmund Rice after her father's 1616 death, when she is still single. # Edward Frost bpt 11 Nov 1605 # Mary bpt 21 Jan 1607 # John Bpt 20 Jan 1609# Thomas (bp 30 April 1615: bur 23 June 1615)<ref>TAG 61:166, citing parish records</ref># Thomas (bp 21 April 1616; not mentioned in father's will)<ref>TAG 61:166, citing parish records</ref> === Will === Edward Frost of Stanstead, co. Suffolk, clothier, will dated 26 July 1616, proved 4 October 1616. I make bequests to Thomasine my wife, William Frost my son; my five daughters, Elizabeth, now the wife of HenryRice; Anne now the wife of Laurence Collen; Alice, wife of Thomas Blower, Mary Frost and Thomasine Frost; and to Edward Rice, son of my daughter Elizabeth Reice. Executrix, my wife Thomasine. Witnesses, Ambrose Bigges, senor & Ambrose Bigges, junior. (PCC 129 Cope.)<ref name="Hol"/> === Death and Legacy ===Edward was buried 3 Aug 1616 Stanstead, Suffolk, England<ref name="Hol"/> His wife survived him.<ref name="Hol"/> == Notes ==[http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=d274d9da-952a-45ba-9456-ed7f8b551b80&tid=24279608&pid=1760718113 Frost Coat of Arms] (Warning: these arms may have no tie with Edward Frost the individual) == Sources == <references /> See also:* [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=116093760 Find-a-Grave Entry for Edward Frost] * Rice Gen'l Register, p. 1.* Harold F. Jr Porter, "The Strutt Ancestry of Thomasine Frost", ''The American Genealogist,'' vol 61 (1986), p. 165-166. [https://www.americanancestors.org/DB283/i/12790/166/0 Link at AmericanAncestors ($)]* Harold F. Jr Potter, "The Paternal Ancestry of Thomasine Frost", pp. 134, 135; 164-165 See the changes page for the details of contributions and edits. <!-- Please edit, add, or delete anything in this text, including this note. Be bold and experiment! If you make a mistake you can always see the previous version of the text on the Changes page. -->
3. [[Category: St James Churchyard, Nayland, Suffolk]] == Biography ==Thomasine Belgrave was baptized 1 Feb 1562, Leverington, Cambridgeshire, England.<ref>Harold F. Porter, Jr., ''The Strutt Ancestry of Thomasine Frost wife of Edmund Frost of Sudbury, Mass.,'' TAG 61:161-166, p. 165, available at [https://www.americanancestors.org/DB283/rd/12790/165/144276924 americanancestors.org]</ref> :'''NOTE:''' she should not be confused with the Thomasine Clench (wife of immigrant Edmund -- not Edward -- Frost) who died 13 June 1653, Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts. Thomasine Belgrave married Edward Frost 26 sep 1585 in Glemsford, Suffolk, England.<ref>Name Edrus. Frost Spouse's Name Thomasina Belgrave Event Date 26 Sep 1585 Event Place Glemsford,Suffolk,England Citing this Record"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLMX-56Y : 10 February 2018), Edrus. Frost and Thomasina Belgrave, 26 Sep 1585; citing Glemsford,Suffolk,England, reference , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 950,452.</ref> They had the following children: # Anne (Died as Infant) (bp. 1586-) # Elizabeth (bp. 1588-) m. Henry Rice # William (bp. 1589-) # Ann (bp. 1592-), m Laurence Collen # Alice (bp. 1594-), m Thomas Blower # Mary (bp. 1596-) # Mary (~1598-)# Thomasine (bp. 1600-1654), may have married the Immigrant Edmund Rice after her father's 1616 death, when she is still single.# Thomas (bp 1615: bur 1615)<ref>TAG 61:166, citing parish records</ref># Thomas (bp 1616; not mentioned in father's will)<ref>TAG 61:166, citing parish records</ref> Thomasine Belgrave Frost was still alive 26 jul 1616, when husband Edward wrote his will. == Sources == <references /> See also:# [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Frost&GSfn=Thomasine&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=116093904&df=all& Find-a-Grave entry for Thomasine Belgrave Frost] # Rice Gen'l Register, p. 1. # Harold F. Porter, Jr., "The Strutt-Biggs Relationships", page?# Harold F. Porter,, Jr., "The Strutt Ancestry of Thomasine Frost", in ''The American Genealogist'', vol, 61 (1968), pp. 161-166.# Harold F. Porter, Jr., "The Paternal Ancestry of Thomasine Frost", in ''The American Genalogist'', vol. 63 (1988), pp. 129-37, 164-165.# Mary Lovering Holman, "Notes on Edmund Rice", in ''The American Genealogist,'' Volume 10, p. 135.# Bessie Burris Hunt, ''Ancestors & Descendants of Jonathan Burris,''Sun Printing