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1. == Biography == Anna was born in 1634 and died young. == Sources == <references /> * [[Vasile-13 | Wilfred Vasile]], firsthand knowledge. Click the Changes tab for the details of edits by Wilfred and others.
2. {{Puritan Great Migration}}[[Category: Immigrants to Massachusetts Bay Colony from England]][[Category:Moore Name Study]] ==Biography== == Origins and Wives == Seeking proof (if any) that he was the son of [[Moore-3195|John Moore]] (or [[Morse-360|Joseph Morse]]) and [[Barber-640|Dorothy Barber]] (or this [[Barber-631|Dorothy Barber]]). Until such proof is found, we are disconnecting John Moore, the immigrant, from these parents. If he was the John Moore of Henham, co. Essex,<ref>Anderson, "The English Origins of Philemon Whale," ''The Genealogist'' 6:134, 139-40)</ref> then he married (1) about 1625 Elizabeth _____; he married (2) at Little Gaddesden, do. Hertford, 27 Nov 1633 Elizabeth Rice, daughter of Henry and Elizabeth (Frost) Rice and stepdaughter of Philemon1 Whale, later of Sudbury. She was baptized at Stanstead, co. Essex, on 18 Nov 1612 and died in Sudbury, Massachusetts, on 14 Dec 1690 as "widow Elizabeth Moore."<ref>NEHGR 17:140</ref> == Life in New England == There is uncertainty about when John Moore arrived in New England. Ifthe baptism of Mary, daughter of John Moore, in Berkhamstead on 9 Jan1641/2 is that of a daughter of the immigrant, he must have arrived after that time. While the town history claims that John Moore was at the Sudbury settlement soon after it began (1638-1639),<ref>''The History of Sudbury'', [https://www.wikitree.com/photo/The_History_of_Sudbury.jpg Page 26]</ref> the first record of his presence is in September 1642, when he bought of [[Rice-52|Edmund Rice]] (father of his soon-to-be [[Rice-53|son-in-law]]) a house and land situated in the east part of the town, in the southerly part of what is now the town of Wayland.<ref name=Bolton303>Bolton, Ethel Stanwood. Some Descendants of John Moore of Sudbury, Mass. ''New England Historical and Genealogical Register'', vol. 57(1903), pp. 300ff [https://www.americanancestors.org/DB202/i/11719/300/23531455 americanancestors.org].</ref> By this time, he was also married to his second wife, Elizabeth-- step-daughter of Philemon Whale. :There was also a John Moore of Cambridge who owned land ''there'' aslate as 1643, and there has been an effort thus far fruitless, to prove that they were identical, but it seems doubtful, since the land owned by John Moore of Cambridge has been traced to his descendants. It was finally sold, about the time of the Revolution, by a Cambridge man,who happened at the time to be living in Sudbury, but who was not a descendant of John Moore of Sudbury. 1645: He took the oath of fidelity at Sudbury July 9 1645.<ref name=Bolton303/> The same year, he bought of John Stone a dwelling house and house lot, and all other lands and meadows belonging to Stone by virtue of his right in the beginning of the plantation of Sudbury. 1653: He subscribed to the covenant of Lancaster "11th first mo. 1653," and forty acres of land were laid out in his name, and the first grant of lots (1653. 30th 9mo").{{Citation Needed}} He died 6 January 1673/4.<ref name=Bolton303/> == Last Will & Testament == His will<ref>Worcester Co Probate #10921</ref> was dated the 25th of August 1668, and was probated the 7th of April 1674. In it he mentions: * wife Elizabeth, * eldest son son John of Lancaster; * eldest daughter Elizabeth, wife of Henry Rice; * daughter Mary, wife of Daniel Stone;* youngest daughter Lydia, wife of James Cutler, former wife of Samuel Wright; * sons William, Jacob, Joseph and Benjamin.He appoints Rev. Edmund Brown, Lt. Edmund Goodnow, and Mr. Thomas Stevens, overseers of the will. His signature to the will was John More. == Children == By his first wife ("Bridget" according to the Edmund Rice Association, but above implies her name was Elizabeth):{{Citation Needed}} # [[Moore-175|Elizabeth Moore]], b abt 1626, d Framingham, MA 23 Aug 1705; m. in Sudbury 1 Jan 1643/4 [[Rice-53|Henry Rice]], son of EdmundRice, her step first cousin, once removed.# [[Moore-3196|John Moore]], b abt 1628, poss. the "John, son of JohnMore and Ellesabeth," bp Henham, co Essex, 11 Nov 1628, d Lancaster, MA bef 23 Sep 1702; m1 in Sudbury 16 Nov 1654 Ann Smith, dau of John. m. Nov 16, 1654, Ann Smith (dau of John), m2 Lancaster 20 Aug 1683 Mary (----) Whitcomb, widow of John; signed the Covenant of Lancaster, 13: 2 mo. 1654 and d. in 1702, leaving a widow Mary. His wife died March10, 1670-1. NOTE: Stevens-Miller 2:153, disentangles John2 Moore froman older John Moore of Lancaster who had a wife named Judith.# (poss) [[Moore-8687|Susan]] bp "Suzand, daughter of John More," Henham 17 Jul 1630; bur Henham 18 July 1630. By his second wife, Elizabeth Rice, dau of Henry Rice and step-daughter of Philemon Whale:<br>:4. [[Moore-8689|Anna]], bp Berkhamstead, co Hertford, 12 Oct 1634; prob dy<br>:5. [[Moore-3186|Richard]] b abt 1636-7, bur Berkhamstead 7 Nov 1650<br>:6. [[Moore-8691|William]] b abt 1639, d Sudbury 25 Mar 1688 prob unm. In 1664 he bought land in Sudbury of Thomas Beesbeech of Marshfield;in 1679 he sold forty-eight acres in four pieces to his brother Benjamin.<br>:7. [[Moore-174|Mary]], bp Berkhamstead 9 Jan 1641/2; m1 Sudbury Sept. 8 1661, Richard Ward (drowned in Sudbury River, March 31, 1666); m. 2d.2 Nov 1667 Dea. David Stone.<br>:8. [[Moore-7610|Lydia]], b Sudbury 24 Jun 1643; d there 23 Nov 1723;m1 Sudbury 31 My 1664 Samuel Wright; m2 15 Jun 1665 James Cutler<br>:9. [[Moore-7620|Jacob Moore]], b. Sudbury 29 April 1645, 23 Mar 1715/6; m. May 29, 1667, Elizabeth Loker, dau of Henry.<br>:10. [[Moore-4393|Joseph]], b. Sudbury 21 Oct 1647, d there 2 Jan 1725/6; m1. Lydia Maynard, dau of John; m2 Ruth.<br> :11. Elizabeth b 10 Jan 1649/50; d.y.<br>:12. Benjamin, b. abt 1652, d Sudbury 29 Oct 1729; m 11 Nov 1686 Dorothy Wright, dau of Edward. ===Descendants ===Notable descendants of John Moore include President [[Coolidge-13|John Calvin Coolidge, Jr.]] (1872-1933) (served as U.S. President 1923-29) who is three times John's 7th great-grandson via his daughter Elizabeth three times. == Sources == <references /> See:* American Genealogical-Biographical Index (AGBI), Volume: 120, PageNumber: 42, citing Frank R. Holmes, ''Directory of the Anc. heads of New England Fams.,'' NewYork, 1923:166* Anderson, Robert Charles. "The English Origins of Philemon Whale ofSudbury, Massachusetts," in ''The Genealogist,'' 6 (1985):131-141.* Bolton, Ethel Stanwood. "Addenda to "Some Descendants..." NEHGR 58(1904):176.* DeForest & DeForest, ''William Henry Moore and his ancestry,'' 1934, pp. 319-320* Ferris, Mary Walton. "Dawes-Gates Ancestral Lines", privately printed 1931.* Filby, P. William, ed., ''Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s,'' available on Ancestry.com.* Hudson, Alfred Sereno, ''The History of Sudbury,'' (1889), [https://www.wikitree.com/photo/The_History_of_Sudbury.jpg Page 26]* Marriage in Massachusetts June 10, 1639 - New England marriage prior to 1700 edition 20 page 516* Middlesex County, Massachusetts Probate Index, 1648-1870 : Moore, John Joseph, Will: 1674; Number: 15362 in Index to the Probate Records of the County of Middlesex, Massachusetts. Cambridge, MA, USA: 1912. * Planters Grange FHL 974 w2p page 143 -- public record Office MSS.* *Plummer, John. The English Origin of John Moore of Sudbury, Massachusetts. ''The American Genealogist,'' 66 (1991): 2, pp. 75-77. * Pope, ''Pioneers of Massachusetts,'' p. 317 * Rice, Margaret Skinner. Rice Family - S2/P1, p. 1. * Sargent, John S. "Moore Genealogy," NEGHS Register, 52 (1898):72-73* Savage, ''Genealogical Dictionary,'' Boston, MA (1861); vol. 3, p. 229 * Vital Records of Sudbury, Massachusetts, p 91, LDS film #0185455 * Ward, Andrew Henshaw. Rice Family (Ward), pp. 29-31. * http://www.edmund-rice.org/era5gens/p24.htm#i132
3. == Disputed Origins == The Henry Rice who married Elizabeth Frost (who then went on to marry[[Whale-11|Philemon Whale II]]) has been thought to be brother or father of the immigrant [[Rice-52|Edmund Rice]] who settled in Sudbury, Massachusetts about 1638. <ref>''The American Genealogist,'' vol. 10, p134: QUOTE NEEDED</ref> == Biography == Henry Rice or Rys of Ratcliffe was born 1564 [others say 1588] in Wapping, Ratcliffe, East Mithfield, St. Katherine's Whitechapel, Middlesex [other say Suffolk], England. He married first 1605 [seems late given 1564 birth year; are we conflating two men here, one generation apart??] Elizabeth Frost... [is this right?] In "English Notes on Edmund Rice," Mary Lovering Holman<ref>''The American Genealogist,'' vol. 10, p133-137</ref> had searched the church register from Stanstead, Suffolk, England with the following results: One Henry Rice married Elizabeth Frost in November 1605. Supposed children, recorded in this register include: # Henry Ryce, son of Henry; buried September 1608 # Edward Ryce, baptized May 1608 # Henry Ryce, baptized Feb 1609/10; # Elizabeth Ryce, baptized November 1612 # Mary Ryce, baptized Jun 1615 # Anne Ryce, baptized March 1617/8 One Henry Rice, the father?, was buried November 1621 in Stanstead.<ref>''The American Genealogist,'' vol. 10, p133-136</ref> No will has been found. The Frosts were of Stanstead, but not the Rice name. == Research Notes ==:Henry Rice and his wife Elizabeth Frost '''were not''' the parents of the emigrant [[Rice-52|Edmund Rice]] of Sudbury, Massachusetts. Fromthe [http://edmund-rice.org/ancestors.htm Edmund Rice (1638) Family Association]: :Twice in the 20th century nationally recognized research genealogists have attempted to determine the parents and ancestors of Edmund Rice:# Mary Lovering Holman described the negative result of her search for records in the parishes near Stanstead and Sudbury, Suffolk County, England in "English Notes on Edmund Rice … ", ''The American Genealogist''', Volume 10 (1933/34), pp. 133 - 137. Mrs. Holman is consideredby many to be one of the best research genealogists in the 20th century.# In 1997, the Edmund Rice (1638) Association commissioned Dr. JoannaMartin, a nationally recognized research genealogist who lives in England only a few miles from Stanstead and Sudbury to search again for records of Edmund Rice's parents. Dr. Martin reported in 1999 that she found no record that identified Edmund's parents or ancestral line... :::From Mrs. Holman's paper we have an excellent record of one Henry Rice's marriage to Elizabeth Frost in November 1605 at Stanstead. Mrs. Holman also documents the baptism of Edmund's first child on 23 August 1619 at Stanstead. If this is the Henry Rice and Elizabeth Frost to which the LDS records refer, the LDS records must be erroneous... If Henry was the father of Edmund the immigrant, it would have been by an earlier wife. The Edmund Rice (1638) Association makes it very clear that no proof has been found of Edmund's parentage.<ref>http://www.edmund-rice.org/ancestors.htm</ref> == Sources == <references /> See also:* ''Catalogue of American genealogies in the library of the Long Island Historical Society,'' Brooklyn, N. Y.: The Society, 1935. Availableon ancestry.com* ''A volume of records relating to the early history of Boston,'' Boston: Municipal Print. Office, 1900-1909.** Note: Vols. 1-22, 1876-1890, issued as "Report of the Record Commissioners." In 1892 the Record Commissioners' Department (created in 1875 and known also as the Department of Ancient Records) was consolidated with the Registry Department, which continued the publication under the same title until 1900; with v. 29, the title was changed to its present form.* ''Middlesex, England, Extracted Parish Records,'' Ancestry.com. Electronic databases created from various publications of parish and probate records.* Ellery Bicknell Crane, ed., ''Historic Homes and Institutions and Genealogical and Personal Memoirs of Worcester County Massachusetts with a History of Worcester Society,'' [place? date?] According to the profiles Rice-220, married Baker-314, when he was 15or 16 years of age, in 1579. She was about 21. Possible yes, probableno. He then married Frost-76, and Frost-103, in 1605. Possible No. Frost-76 and Frost-103, may not be the same person, but Baker-314, was not married to two women, with the same name, at the same time.Someone who is certified, needs to remove, one of these ladies, as awife, to Baker-314.
4. [[Category:England, Pre-1700 PPPs]][[Category:England, Pre-1700 Managed profile needs work]] {{England}} == Biography == William was born about 1522. The Will of William Rice, of Medmenham, Buckinghamshire, England was written in 1588 and proved on the 25th November 1588. <ref>The National Archives; Kew, England; Prerogative Court of Canterbury and Related Probate Jurisdictions: Will Registers; Class: PROB 11; Piece: 73 Discovery catalogue entry for the ''Will of William Rice of Medmenham'' is [https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D924683 here] </ref> <br> To be further completed. Thank you for your patience. ==Research Notes==Note: the birth and death dates and association with Buckinghamshireand Medmenham in particular , imply that this profile is conflated with a William Rice , son of Unknown Rice and Eden Saunders. See Historyof Parliament entry for William Rice freely viewable online [https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/rice-william-1522-88 here ] . Lack of evidence for William being a son of [[Ap_Gruffydd-42|Rhys ap Gruffydd]] and [[Howard-10|Catherine Howard]]: The book written in 1993 [https://www.uwp.co.uk/book/sir-rhys-ap-thomas-and-his-family-hardback/ Sir Rhys ap Thomas and His Family- A Studyin the Wars of the Roses and Early Tudor Politics] (by Ralph A. Griffiths, OBE, Emeritus Professor of Medieval History at Swansea University, Honorary Vice-President of the Royal Historical Society, and formerly Chairman of the Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Wales. ) does not refer at all to a William ap Rhys, son ofRhys ap Grufydd. <br> The only mention of a William ap Rhys is as one of the illegitimate sons of [[Ap_Thomas-9|Sir Rhys ap Thomas]] by Gwenllian, sister of theabbott of Talley. That William settled in Sandyhaven, Pembrokeshire.<br>The book draws on many early sources from Libraries and record offices. It also contains a reprint of the 17th century "Life of Sir Rhys apThomas" which is believed to have been written by Henry Rice, a descendant of Rhys ap Thomas. This has no mention of WIlliam ap Rhys. == Sources == <references /> See also: (the following sources need to be assessed individual to see what, if anything they include concerning the individuals on this profile; thank you):* "North American, Family Histories, 1500-2000 for William Rice whichappears to be citing:** page 110, 'Genealogy and History of the Grout and Allied Families:line item 13. William Rice, of Bohmer, born 1522 father of line item 14. Thomas Rice, born 1555, father of line item 15. Edmund Rice, born about 1594, came to New England 1638, settled in Sudbury, Massachusetts (ref.1)."** "(ref.1) [https://archive.org/details/bynameofricehist00riceiala/page/10 By the name of Rice, an Historical Sketch of Deacon Edmund Rice], also Mss. by Charles Elmer Rice, Nos. 12-15, from this source: ** Browning's Magna Carta Barons, pp. 190-227:**'' Americans of Royal Descen''t, by Charles Henry Browning; Published:Porter & Costes, 1891 ''pp. 159-60'';** [https://archive.org/details/thomasbookgivin00thomgoog/page/n9 Thomas, The Thomas Book], also page 20 cites William Ap Rice, of Sandy Haven ( Pembrokeshire ), Sheriff of Pembrokeshire 1557. This was an illegitimate son of [[Ap_Thomas-9|Sir Rhys ap Thomas]] by Gwenllian, sister of the abbott of Talley. See that entry online [https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=pi9WAAAAMAAJ&dq=Thomas%2C+The+THomas+Book&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=William+Rice here] See also [https://archive.org/details/thomasbookgivin00thomgoog/page/n64 here] for the descent via Thomasap Rhys, another illegitimate son of [[Ap_Thomas-9|Sir Rhys ap Thomas]] by Gwenllian. NB the pages 471-473 originally cited here as a source do not mention William ap Rhys. The only children of Rhys ap Gruffydd ( Rice ) and Catherine Howard cited here are [[Rhys-123|Griffith Rice]] and[[Reese-1398| Agnes]]. [ Freely viewable online here:[https://archive.org/details/thomasbookgivin00thomgoog/page/n576 Rice of Dynevor]** Burke's Peerage, etc., 1894, p. 474." End page 110. Online record source access thru: [www.Ancestry.com]. * [http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=24279608&pid=1759262483 Various Ancestry Family Trees] - USE WITH CAUTION ''Do you have information about William Rice? Please contribute to his biography. Everything on WikiTree is a collaborative work-in-progress.''
5. [[Category: St James Churchyard, Nayland, Suffolk]] {{Puritan Great Migration Adjunct}}:''Due to controversies about his origins and relationships, and thathe is father of multiple Great Migration-era immigrants, his profile is being tracked and protected by the Puritan Great Migration project.'' == Biography ==Edward Frost<ref name="Hunt">Hunt, Bessie B., "Ancestors & Descendants of Jonathan Burris" Sun Printing</ref> '''Edward Frost''':'''Baptized:''' 13 March 1560/61 at Glemsford, Suffolk, England<ref name="Thre">Threlfall, John B., ''Fifty Great Migration Colonists of New England and Their Origins'', Madison, Wisconsin: Privately Printed,1990 (reprinted at Bowie, Maryland: Heritage Books, 1992).</ref>:'''Married:''' 1585 at Glemsford, to Thomasine Belgrave<ref name="Thre"/> :'''Occupation:''' clothier<ref name="Thre"/>:'''Residence:''' removed c. 1588-9 to Stanstead (the next town to the northeast)<ref name="Thre"/>:'''Buried:''' 3 August 1616 at Stanstead (wife surviving him)<ref name="Thre"/> May be buried at St. James Church, Standstead.<ref>[http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=116093760 Find-a-Grave entry for Edward Frost], no citations provided; use with caution.</ref> === Origin ===Edward was baptized 13 Mar 1560, Glemsford, England<ref name="Hol">Holman, Mary L., "English Notes on Edmund Rice" in ''The American Genealogist,'' volume 10, pp 134-35 [https://www.americanancestors.org/DB283/i/11841/135/23568281 Link at AmericanAncestors ($)]</ref> He was a son of [[Frost-62|John Frost]] and [[Scott-243|Ann Scott]].{{Citation Needed}} === Family ===Edward married on 26 September 1585 [or on 26 July 1585, on p. 91] atGlemsford, Suffolk, England to Thomasine Belgrave, daughter of John and Joanna (Strutt) Belgrave. She was baptized 1 February 1561/2 at Leverington in Cambridgeshire.<ref name="Thre"/> Children (after about 1588-9, children baptized at Stanstead)<ref name="Hol"/>:# Anne (Died as Infant) (bp. 28 Nov 1586-bur. 27 Dec 1586) in Glemsford# Elizabeth (bp. 24 Mar 1587/8 Glemstead) m. Henry Rice, Stanstead, in Nov 1605; apparently m. (2) St. Mary's Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, 24Jan 1621/2 Philemon Whale # William (bp. 3 Aug 1589-) # Ann (bp. 3 Dec 1592-), m Laurence Collen # Alice (bp. 1 Dec 1594-), m Thomas Blower # Mary (bp. 21 Sep 1596- bur. 23 Nov 1596)# Thomasine (bp. 11 Aug 1600-1654), may have married the Immigrant Edmund Rice after her father's 1616 death, when she is still single. # Edward Frost bpt 11 Nov 1605 # Mary bpt 21 Jan 1607 # John Bpt 20 Jan 1609# Thomas (bp 30 April 1615: bur 23 June 1615)<ref>TAG 61:166, citing parish records</ref># Thomas (bp 21 April 1616; not mentioned in father's will)<ref>TAG 61:166, citing parish records</ref> === Will === Edward Frost of Stanstead, co. Suffolk, clothier, will dated 26 July 1616, proved 4 October 1616. I make bequests to Thomasine my wife, William Frost my son; my five daughters, Elizabeth, now the wife of HenryRice; Anne now the wife of Laurence Collen; Alice, wife of Thomas Blower, Mary Frost and Thomasine Frost; and to Edward Rice, son of my daughter Elizabeth Reice. Executrix, my wife Thomasine. Witnesses, Ambrose Bigges, senor & Ambrose Bigges, junior. (PCC 129 Cope.)<ref name="Hol"/> === Death and Legacy ===Edward was buried 3 Aug 1616 Stanstead, Suffolk, England<ref name="Hol"/> His wife survived him.<ref name="Hol"/> == Notes ==[http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=image&guid=d274d9da-952a-45ba-9456-ed7f8b551b80&tid=24279608&pid=1760718113 Frost Coat of Arms] (Warning: these arms may have no tie with Edward Frost the individual) == Sources == <references /> See also:* [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=116093760 Find-a-Grave Entry for Edward Frost] * Rice Gen'l Register, p. 1.* Harold F. Jr Porter, "The Strutt Ancestry of Thomasine Frost", ''The American Genealogist,'' vol 61 (1986), p. 165-166. [https://www.americanancestors.org/DB283/i/12790/166/0 Link at AmericanAncestors ($)]* Harold F. Jr Potter, "The Paternal Ancestry of Thomasine Frost", pp. 134, 135; 164-165 See the changes page for the details of contributions and edits. <!-- Please edit, add, or delete anything in this text, including this note. Be bold and experiment! If you make a mistake you can always see the previous version of the text on the Changes page. -->
6. [[Category:Puritan Great Migration]] {{Puritan Great Migration}} ---- == Disputed Origins ==Elizabeth was the daughter of Henry Rice and Elizabeth (Frost) Whale.She was the adopted daughter of Elizabeth'S second husband Philemon Whale. Many genealogical studies of John(1) Moore and his family claim that his last wife was Elizabeth, daughter of Philemon1 Whale of Sudbury, who calls her his daughter in his will. Many have taken this to mean that she was Elizabeth, bapt 31 Jan 1593 to Philemon Whale in Checkney, Essex England.<ref>IGI Batch #F506660, sheet 047, call #1553362, citing Film 455484, Parish Registers of Chickney, Essex; baptisms</ref> Robert Charles Anderson<ref>Robert Charles Anderson, "The English Origins of Philemon Whale of Sudbury, Massachusetts,'' in ''The Genealogist,'' 6 (1985):131-41</ref> has argued that she was actually a daughter of Henry and Elizabeth (Frost) Rice of Stanstead, co. Suffolk, England, and a ''stepdaughter'' of Philemon Whale, who married Henry Rice'swidow. Philemon Whale did not marry Elizabeth Frost (widow of Henry Rice) until 1621, had their first child (dau Sarah) in 1622; a subsequent birth of Elizabeth would too late to parent the Elizabeth who marries in 1639. Then to really confirm this, "...a microfilm of a transcript of the Bishop's Transcripts for Little Gaddesden was checked (FHL #1040857, item 3)... under the date of 27 Nov 1633, we find the marriage of 'Johannes More & Elizabetha Rice." ... There can be no doubt that this is the marriage of the immigrants to Sudbury, Mass.<ref>John Plummer, "The English Origin of John1 Moore of Sudbury, Massachusetts," in ''The American Genealogist,'' 66(1991):75-77</ref> == Biography == She was baptized 18 Nov 1612 in Stanstead, Suffolk, England, daughterof Henry Rice (d. 1620) and Elizabeth Frost. She married John Moore 27 Nov 1633 in Little Gaddesden, England. She died 14 Dec 1690 in Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts. == Sources == <references /> <!-- Please edit, add, or delete anything in this text, including this note. Be bold and experiment! If you make a mistake you can always see the previous version of the text on the Changes page. --> === Notes === : Note <span id='DI4206'>DI4206</span>(now Wayland) : Note <span id='NI4206'>NI4206</span>stepfather named Whale whose name she used Elizabeth4 RICE (#2564) was born, : before 18 November 1612
7. {{Puritan Great Migration}} == Biography == Elizabeth Frost, daughter of Edward Frost, was baptized in Glemsford,Suffolk, England on 24 March 1587/8.<ref>"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5Y4-BXB : 30 December 2014, Elizabetha Frost, 24 Mar 1587); citing GLEMSFORD,SUFFOLK,ENGLAND, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 950,452.</ref> That Elizabeth Frost who married Henry Rice was daughter of Edward Frost and Thomasine Belgrave is claimed in "Ancestry of Thomasine (Frost) Rice," in ''The American Genealogist,'' 63:134::"Edward [Frost] bp. 13 March 1560/1... m. Glemsford 26 July 1585 THOMASINE BELGRAVE... Edward and Thomasine were the parents of the immigrants Elizabeth Frost (bp. Stanstead 24 March 1587[/8]), who m. (1) Henry Rice and (2) Philemon Whale, later of sudbury, Mass.;..." This is apparently also discussed further in Robert Charles Anderson,"The English Origins of Philemon Whale of Sudbury, Massachusetts," in''The Genealogist,'' 6(1985):131-141. Died 20 Jun 1647 Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts?{{citation needed}}:There was an "Elizabeth, w. of [[Whale-11|Philemon Whale]]" who diedin Sudbury on this date.<ref>[http://ma-vitalrecords.org/MA/Middlesex/Sudbury/Images/Sudbury_D329.gif Sudbury Vital Records to 1850], Deaths, p 329</ref> But how do we know her origins? Here's what Anderson says:<ref>''Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to N.E. 1620-1633, Vols. I-III,'' p 206 (Profile for Richard Brackett)</ref>:"Alice Frost, was sister of... Elizabeth Frost, who married first Henry Rice and then Philemon Whale, the latter also an immigrant to Sudbury [TAG 15:227, 26:10-11; TG 6:131-41; Stevens-Miller Anc 143-144]." But WHICH Henry Rice?:"Philemon Whale, who married Henry Rice's widow ("The English Origins of Philemon Whale of Sudbury, Massachusetts," ''The Genealogist,'' [TG] 6[1985]:131-41). '''Henry Rice is believed to be a brother of Edmund Rice of Sudbury,''' from whom John Moore purchased land in 1642."<ref>John Plummer, "The English Origins of John1 Moore of Sudbury, Massachusetts," in ''The American Genealogist,'' 66:75</ref> == Sources == <references /> <!-- Please edit, add, or delete anything in this text, including this note. Be bold and experiment! If you make a mistake you can always see the previous version of the text on the Changes page. -->
8. [[Category: St James Churchyard, Nayland, Suffolk]] == Biography ==Thomasine Belgrave was baptized 1 Feb 1562, Leverington, Cambridgeshire, England.<ref>Harold F. Porter, Jr., ''The Strutt Ancestry of Thomasine Frost wife of Edmund Frost of Sudbury, Mass.,'' TAG 61:161-166, p. 165, available at [https://www.americanancestors.org/DB283/rd/12790/165/144276924 americanancestors.org]</ref> :'''NOTE:''' she should not be confused with the Thomasine Clench (wife of immigrant Edmund -- not Edward -- Frost) who died 13 June 1653, Sudbury, Middlesex, Massachusetts. Thomasine Belgrave married Edward Frost 26 sep 1585 in Glemsford, Suffolk, England.<ref>Name Edrus. Frost Spouse's Name Thomasina Belgrave Event Date 26 Sep 1585 Event Place Glemsford,Suffolk,England Citing this Record"England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLMX-56Y : 10 February 2018), Edrus. Frost and Thomasina Belgrave, 26 Sep 1585; citing Glemsford,Suffolk,England, reference , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 950,452.</ref> They had the following children: # Anne (Died as Infant) (bp. 1586-) # Elizabeth (bp. 1588-) m. Henry Rice # William (bp. 1589-) # Ann (bp. 1592-), m Laurence Collen # Alice (bp. 1594-), m Thomas Blower # Mary (bp. 1596-) # Mary (~1598-)# Thomasine (bp. 1600-1654), may have married the Immigrant Edmund Rice after her father's 1616 death, when she is still single.# Thomas (bp 1615: bur 1615)<ref>TAG 61:166, citing parish records</ref># Thomas (bp 1616; not mentioned in father's will)<ref>TAG 61:166, citing parish records</ref> Thomasine Belgrave Frost was still alive 26 jul 1616, when husband Edward wrote his will. == Sources == <references /> See also:# [http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Frost&GSfn=Thomasine&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=116093904&df=all& Find-a-Grave entry for Thomasine Belgrave Frost] # Rice Gen'l Register, p. 1. # Harold F. Porter, Jr., "The Strutt-Biggs Relationships", page?# Harold F. Porter,, Jr., "The Strutt Ancestry of Thomasine Frost", in ''The American Genealogist'', vol, 61 (1968), pp. 161-166.# Harold F. Porter, Jr., "The Paternal Ancestry of Thomasine Frost", in ''The American Genalogist'', vol. 63 (1988), pp. 129-37, 164-165.# Mary Lovering Holman, "Notes on Edmund Rice", in ''The American Genealogist,'' Volume 10, p. 135.# Bessie Burris Hunt, ''Ancestors & Descendants of Jonathan Burris,''Sun Printing
9. [[Category: Buckingham, Buckinghamshire]] == Biography == : [[Myal-5|Thomasine Myal]] : Birth: abt 1542, Buckingham, England : Death: aft 1568 : Marriage: abt 1563, of Sudbury, Suffolk, England : Spouse: [[Royce-224|'''William Royce (Rose)''']] : Children: # [[Royce-75|Thomas Royce]]/Rice # ''Henry Royce/Rice'' == Sources ==* Source: [https://familysearch.org/search/tree/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AJohn%20%2Bsurname%3ANance%20%2Bbirth_place%3A%22Illogan%2C%20Cornwall%2C%20England%22~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1575-1595~ Primary FamilySearch.org URL] [https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:SRRK-PBT Thomasine Myal] Pedigree Resource File: Birth: about 1542, of Buckingham, England; Marriage: about 1563, of Sudbury, Suffolk, England; Spouse: William /Rice; Children: Henry /Rice; Thomas /Rice * Source: [https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:1:97TM-XYJ Thomasine Myal] Death: after 1568 [International Genealogical Index (IGI)] Birth: about 1543, Buckinghamshire, England; Death: after 1568 * Source: * Genealogy of the Bryan and Martin Families; URL: www.bryan-martin.net/genealogy <references /> == Acknowledgments ==* Thank you to [[Raber-23|Lynden Raber Castle Rodriguez]] for starting this profile.